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every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God... 1 Jn. 4:3 such are the anti-Christ co-redeemers...
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old man joe
2009-02-18 13:05:03 UTC
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" ... every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the
[spirit] of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is
already in the world. " 1 Jn. 4:3

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as repugnant as the gospels of co-redemption are they are nonetheless an instrument
revealing the co-redeeming anti-Christs to the elect. ( Php. 1:28 ) John goes on to
teach the true nature of the co-redeeming anti-Christs with the unequivocal language
of the Spirit of God when he says...

" They are from the world; therefore they speak [as] from the world, and the world
listens to them. " ( 1 Jn. 4:5 )

these have made salvation a thing to be worked for by good deeds done while in the
flesh, of which by so doing, no one can please God. ( Ro. 8:8 ) the love of God is
then made conditional. the Bible no where teaches God lets Himself be manipulated by
man. yet, the co-redeeming anti-Christs have gospels which attempt just that.

John goes on to teach that the atoning death of Christ is directed only towards the
elect ( 1 Jn. 4:9,10 ) otherwise, the whole world would be saved. if Christ
redeemed the whole world by His atoning death, the whole world would be saved lest we
become anti-Christs by saying He failed at Calvary... this is exactly what the
co-redeeming anti-Christs are saying with their doctrine of Universal atonement minus
Universal salvation.

the failed Savior needs the good works of man to fix what He could not do. He
needs man's help to open the door so to speak, to salvation. these picture man as in
a dark room and if he will only get up and answer the knock at the door, Christ will
save him. this of course means man is saved by his good work.

these co-redeeming anti-Christs consistently refer to text wherein the Bible is
addressing the elect only and mis-apply these texts to the lost.

that's all well and good and given by God to show what salvation is not. ( Php.
1:28 )

man in the dark room is said by God to be in there dead. ( Eph. 2:1-3 ) he is not
about to get up on his own power to answer the knock he can not hear since he is
dead. it takes the Living God to first, give him life. ( Jn. 3:3; Acts 13:48 ) then
and only then does he respond to the God of the living. whereas he formerly was of
this world, the Lord's Christ removed him by His choice to do so ( Jn. 15:16 ) and
these elect ones have now become partakers of the life which is in the Living God,
making them the objects of His love while making them the objects of hatred of the
world belonging to the co-redeeming anti-Christs. Jn. 15:19

wonderfully, salvation comes only to the those chosen by God in eternity past.
( Eph. 1:3-12 ) and as the text demonstrates, it is by grace freely bestowed and not
by good works foreseen, lest man should boast.
Patrick
2009-02-18 18:35:59 UTC
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Post by old man joe
" ... every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the
[spirit] of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is
already in the world. " 1 Jn. 4:3
Huh?

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